beyond belief  

"science, religion, reason and survival" şeklinde ana noktalarını belirleyen the science network ve crick-jacobs center iş birliği ile bilim insanları ve filozofların biraraya gelerek; ilki 2006 da "beyond belief" ve ikincisi 2007' de "beyond belief 2.0" olmak üzere; dinlerin toplumlarda, özellikle son yıllarda yarattığı kimi geri dönüşü yok gibi görünen etkilerin, dinlerin getirdiği olmazsa olmaz görünen özelliklerin bilimsel ve felsefi olarak ele alındığı forum..

http://thesciencenetwork.org/...

sorduğu temel sorulara gelirsek:

- could this be twilight for the enlightenment project and the beginning of a new age of unreason?

- will faith and dogma trump rational inquiry, or will it be possible to reconcile religious and scientific worldviews?

- can evolutionary biology, anthropology and neuroscience help us to better understand how we construct beliefs, and experience empathy, fear and awe?

- can science help us create a new rational narrative as poetic and powerful as those that have traditionally sustained societies?

- can we treat religion as a natural phenomenon?

- can we be good without god?

- and if not god, then what?

tembellik ettim çevirmedim... torrent üzerinden ya da google video' dan ilgili avilere ulaşılabilinmekte....

"agnostiğim abi ben" deyip kestirip atanlara, ya da "allah var gerisine ihtiyaç yok" diyenlere ulaşamayabilir tabi bunlar da...

the divine conspiracy albümünden bir epica şarkısı
sözleri:

wisdom, knowledge, science
you know that's always better, faster
this is the final end

a voice in the wilderness
fights in fear no more
because this stronger death
more sold men before

massive tears wake up
shows what's to expect
scores on top of scores
racing for the future we don't have

fear is taking over me
there is nothing ı can see

the future is as certain
as life will come to an end
when time feels like a burden
we struggle with a certain death

wisdom, knowledge, science
you know that's always better, faster

we have to guide ourselves
for we cannot stand
one more false pretence getting out of hand

now fear is the driving force
taking over us
and finding out this source
made to know to be too much to bear

fear is taking over me
there is nothing ı can see
how could peace seem more to be

the future is as certain
as life will come to an end
when time feels like a burden
we struggle with a certain death

wisdom, knowledge, science
you know that's always better, faster
defeat the science, knowledge, wisdom
these words have always everlasted
this is the final end

vertigo, impossible
vertigo, impossible
we store all that belongs to us

ıt depends, the way to speak
ıt depends, is what we say
we store all that was left behind

the future is as certain
as life will come to an end
when time feels like a burden
we struggle with a certain death

[solo]

the future is as certain
as life will come to an end
when time feels like a burden
we struggle with a certain death

wisdom, knowledge, science
you know that's always better, faster
defeat the science, knowledge, wisdom
these words have always everlasted
this is the final end